by Roger Griffiths » Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:02 am, Post Also remember that the sight is automatically set to 400 yards or so, so you might want to adjust it. G. On December 16–17, 1943, Hitler was shown the StuG IV, and approved it. Sturmgeschütz (abbreviated into StuG) meaning "assault gun" was a series of armored vehicles used by both the German Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS armored formations during the Second World War that primarily consisted of the StuG III and StuG IV. by Roger Griffiths » Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:54 pm, Post The M10 was built on the M4 chassis, and carried a 3-inch gun similar to the M4's 76mm. It was developed by a … It was operated by 4 men crew. This special assault gun is doctrine-specific and can only be called into the field using a special ability, not produced. You have to get the equipment to the Front.. Kramer, Guderian tried to get hold of Stug production for PD's and PGD's in April 1943 on being appointed Generalinspekteur der Panzertruppen. The StuG was more successful in defensive roles, such as ambush, rather than as an offensive vehicle. Its maximum speed was 25 mph, and the power reserve was about 96 miles. In December of 1943, Stug IV was introduced, it was essentially a slightly modified Stug III superstructure (such as extended driver's compartment) mounted on Panzer IV chassis. I never build Panther. The Krupp plant, which did not produce Panzer IIIs, used the Panzer IV chassis with a modified StuG III superstructure, with a box compartment for the driver added. StuG III Ausf.G from the Abt. The StuG III was based on a Panzer III chassis (hence the III), and it didn’t have a rotating turret. Elevation of the gun? The StuG was used primarily within the Sturmartillerie, a branch of the artillery in the Wehrmacht. Stugs started off as artillery vehicles with short 75's. by Alkie » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:27 pm, Post A number of captured StuGs were refurbished in the Soviet Union and given to Syria, along with some Panzer IVs, where they were used briefly against Israel. Dave AAA. Message forum of the Feldgrau.com research community, Post Stug shoots almost double as fast, has the same range and its penetration is enough to penetrate almost every tank in front armor (except IS2 and ISU). I used to own one, and from my experience it's better than the Panzer 3, but not in the same league as the Panther. 6. Not only was its main gun powerful enough to knock out the new Soviet tanks, but the Panzer III chassis on which it was based was highly mobile and reliable, and the increased armor plating combined with its low silhouette made it a difficult vehicle to destroy. 1 Overview 2 In Flames of War 2.1 Unit organization 2.2 Model kits 3 Model assembly 4 Painting 5 Combat efficiency 6 Image gallery The StuG III G assault gun was by far the most widely produced and used in the StuG series. I happen to think he was one of most capable generals and military theorists of the 20th Century. I never build Panther. I had thought the primary reason for the StuG was its simpler to build[no turret] and had a lower profile[smaller target to hit]. The StuG IV was a way to keep the StuG in production after the main assembly plant for it was bombed. The main German anti-tank gun, the 37 mm Pak 36, also proved unable to penetrate the armor of these Soviet designs. Hosted by Art. The chassis, for starters. The lack of an internal light machine gun in early models left the StuG vulnerable to close-range infantry attack. Combat weight was 23 tonnes, lighter than the 23.9 tonnes for the StuG III Ausf. It was identical in role and concept to the highly successful StuG III assault gun variant of the Panzer III. yes, quite right but the hellcat has poor armour so its a given anyway. Unfortunately I don't have specific M4 vs StuG III statistics. Alkie, I've seen those 'posters' you mention and there are a couple here,too.Tank producton was still high considering. III tank until 1945. StuGs did survive on the Eastern front. Concentrated bombing of Synthetic Fuel factories... An Agitator is pretty much the same as a troublemaker. German StuG in Finland. In a December 1943 conference, Hitler welcomed the suggestion of taking the StuG III superstructure and mounting it on a Panzer IV chassis to offset the loss of production of the StuG III. Majority was issued in companies to infantry divisions with few exceptions. IV, the Krupp company focused their attention on the … The crew consisted of 4 people. The Stug IV is effective both against infantry and enemy tanks. The Stug 3 and Stug 4 were probably the most cost effective German armoured fighting vehicles of WW2. There may have been intrasevice reasons as well. by SvenW » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:04 am, Post Daimler-Benz AG was given the order to develop and produce such a weapon on June 15, 1936. 1 Description 2 Variants 3 History 4 References It had a Maybach HL 120 engine that was capable of propelling it at speeds of up to 40 km/h. At least it did according the charts I've seen. I don't know if the plants making StuG bodies could have easily been converted to JgPz IV body production or if JgPz IV production could have completely replaced StuG production. Based on these experiences, the report made by the 11th Panzer division on January 22, 1943 regarding the Panzer III was: ↳ Operational Map Project & Archival Research, ↳ Unit Histories, Feldpost Numbers & Orders of Battle, ↳ Commanders, Personalities & Award Holders, ↳ Foreign Volunteers, Collaboration and Axis Allies, ↳ General WWII German Military Discussion. by Alkie » Mon Oct 04, 2004 11:38 am, Post Post Feb 03, 2018 … The high velocity guns were not that important in the initial role. It was produced, in several modifications, on the basis of the Pz. In December of 1943, Stug IV was introduced, it was essentially a slightly modified Stug III superstructure (such as extended driver's compartment) mounted on Panzer IV chassis. by kramer » Sat Sep 25, 2004 6:49 am, Post Thus the panzer regiments continued to be equipped with Panzer IV and Panther medium tanks for offensive operations. It was developed by a … Having canceled the production of the Pz. sfn error: no target: CITEREFSkaarup2011 (, Learn how and when to remove this template message, "Sturmgeschütz: StuG III, StuH and StuG IV", Sturmgeschutz III/IV at Achtung Panzer website, Photos of the Sturmgeschütz III at the Canada War Museum in Ottawa Ontario, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sturmgeschütz&oldid=1007394817, World War II self-propelled artillery of Germany, Articles needing additional references from February 2016, All articles needing additional references, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 17 February 2021, at 22:33. by Roger Griffiths » Sat Sep 25, 2004 6:29 am, Post However, the lack of a traverse movement in the gun meant the entire vehicle had to be turned left or right to acquire targets, which proved to be a significant weakness at times. And it was mechanically reliable. They did have the 75mm gun[later versions]. A Finnish StuG (posing as a German one) appears in the movie The Eagle Has Landed, and ex-Finnish StuGs have since turned up in British war museums. F/8 and Ausf. Dave AAA. Post by Redbaron1908 » 23 Jul 2003, 18:05 The first vehicles were produced by December 1943. by kramer » Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:17 pm, Post Yet roads,railways,trucks, parts factories, petrol stations were damaged/destroyed. They had AT capability out to 800m but the primary purpose was to neutralize strongpoints. Adolf in late 1943 requests that Stug IV's should be issued to panzer units 'if possible', and they were. by Alkie » Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:47 pm, Post 5. A 12-cylinder Maybach HL 120 TRM engine generating 300 hp drove the StuG III. 1 Overview 2 Weapons 2.1 75mm StuK 40 L/48 2.2 7.92 mm Maschinengewehr 42 3 Veterancy 4 Tactics 5 Weaknesses 6 Variants 7 Quotes 8 Gallery The Stug IV, an abbreviation of Sturmgeschütz IV, is an assault gun, a type of self-propelled artillery. ....(page 96) in 1943 the Alkett factory, which produced Stug III's, was carpet bombed by the USAF. F was designed with a 10.5 cm (4.1 in) true howitzer instead of the 7.5 cm StuK 40 L/43 cannon. The superstructure of the StuG III Ausf. The quote below is from achtungpanzer.com. The StuH 42, SdKfz 142/2, or Sturmhaubitze 42 was a self-propelled gun that was used by Germany during World War II. The Sturmgeschütz IV (StuG IV) (Sd.Kfz. They created five prototypes, based on the chassis of the Panzer III, which were not useful for combat operations but did prove valuable for training.. by twsecrest » Fri May 18, 2018 1:57 pm, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. Adolf said 'They're all against you so I can only go with them' Democracy in action. The StuG III became Nazi Germany's most produced armored fighting vehicle during World War II, with some 10,000 examples manufactured. Stug IV (Sd.Kfz.167) was armed with 75mm StuK 40 L/48 gun mounted in cast "saukopf" mantlet. F chassis with its most notable difference being the addition of an L/28 howitzer for its main gun. .....started in the early fall of 1944. The total weight of the StuH was aroun… A 12-cylinder Maybach HL 120 TRM engine generating 300 hp drove the StuG III. Top. Between 1942 … This tended to pull the vehicle towards an AT role. A captured Syrian Panzer IV and StuG III are on display at the Armor Museum in Israel. These new vehicles, designated StuH 42 (Sturmhaubitze 42, Sd.Kfz 142/2), were designed to provide infantry support with the increased number of StuG III Ausf. The Stug IV or StuG IV is an Axis heavy vehicle unit that is featured in Company of Heroes. Not much. The more common of the two, the StuG III, was built on the chassis of the proven Panzer III. These new vehicles, designated StuH 42 (Sturmhaubitze 42, Sd.Kfz 142/2), were designed to provide infantry support with the increased number of StuG III Ausf.  The main armament, which had a limited lateral traverse, was mounted directly in a casemate-style hull. The StuH 42 is essentially a StuG III Gwith a 10,5 cm howitzer. I can't think of any Stug Abteilungen that had them. I haven't played the game yet, but I've played around with list building quite a bit, so take what I say as you want. While the In 1942, a variant of the StuG Ausf. This basically ended any realistic opportunity of freeing the 6th Army. I built the Academy kit of the Stug IV recently, and I'm curious. Stug is faster but not as flexible in close corners. F was designed with a 105 mm (4.1 in) true howitzer instead of the 7.5 cm StuK 40 L/43 cannon. This gives it a higher specific power (hp/tonne), allowing it to accelerate faster. I can't pick many holes in what you guys are writing but consider this. Redbaron1908 Member Posts: 2023 Joined: 31 Dec 2002, 18:52 Location: Texas. I'd say if you are new to mediums get the Panzer 4. In November 1943, Alkett, GmbH, a major StuG III manufacturer, was bombed as part of the RAF campaign against Berlin, and Alkett's StuG production declined from 255 StuG IIIs in October 1943, to just 24 vehicles in December. It was at that time that Stug IV was either put into production or production was accelerated as a stopgap measure to supply assault guns to the various fronts. In 1942 and 1943 the StuG was one of the most effective tracked fighting vehicles fielded by the belligerents, in terms of enemy vehicles destroyed. The StuG III Ausf.B looks and plays a lot like its tier 5 older brother, the StuG III Ausf.G.  Manstein theorized the vehicle would not be used as one uses a tank, but rather as an infantry support vehicle to destroy fortified objectives through direct fire. In November 1943, British aircraft bombed Alkett, a large manufacturer of StuG IIIs. After seeing how bad the Stuh performs at 3.3 i started to think hard to find any reason for having Stug 3G at BR 4.3 - both have the same chasis/armor, and both are easy to destroy on all but medium-long range (lots of weakspots) - Germany has no low tier front line heavy tank, just a bunch of glass mediums, the Stug 3G was the only German low tier tank i had … The StuG III was initially designated "StuG" but with the creation of the StuG IV (based on the Panzer IV chassis) it was re-designated the "StuG III" to distinguish the two. StuG (Sturm Geschutz III) was a infantry support gun while Jagdpanzer IV was meant for tank killing (or tank hunting ) then there is no such waste of time in producing both ATST. It was based upon the StuG IIIAusf. Some StuG IIIs were modified with a co-axial machine gun as well. After the specifications arrived at the OKH, an order was passed to Daimler-Benz AG and Krupp for delivering a prototype by June 15, 1936. It was not intended to be used to exploit breakthroughs and drive into the enemy rear areas, as the Panzertruppen units were intended to do. quote;The reason for this was numbers. 3,614 8. borys68. Initially a secondary capability, employment as an anti-tank weapon became more important as the war progressed. As a result, production was significantly reduced. He doesnt fit its role: feels like a medium tank: - high mibilty - moderate AI (3 MGs) … For further reading you might look into Steven Zaloga's books particularly M10 Tank Destroyer vs StuG III Assault Gun. The StuG III was initially designated "StuG" but with the creation of the StuG IV (based on the Panzer IVchassis) it was re-designated t… Post Feb 03, 2018 #3 2018-02-03T15:46. This created the lowest possible profile in order to reduce the vehicle's height, making the StuG more difficult to hit and easier to protect in hull defilade. The Imperial War Museum's Duxford site also has an ex-Finland StuG but its markings are more ambiguous. 1 Overview 2 Weapons 2.1 75mm StuK 40 L/48 2.2 7.92 mm Maschinengewehr 42 3 Veterancy 4 Tactics 5 Weaknesses 6 Variants 7 Quotes 8 Gallery The Stug IV, an abbreviation of Sturmgeschütz IV, is an assault gun, a type of self-propelled artillery. Stug shoots almost double as fast, has the same range and its penetration is enough to penetrate almost every tank in front armor (except IS2 and ISU).  Its mission was to destroy prepared defensive works, pill boxes, machine gun emplacements and tanks. Its maximum speed was 25 mph, and the power reserve was about 96 miles. By 1944, 9,346 of these self-propelled guns destroyed about 20,000 enemy … yes, quite right but the hellcat has poor armour so its a given anyway. Some source apply designation Sd.Kfz.163 to Stug IV. Having canceled the production of the Pz. Panzer(Stug)Abteilungen of 4 and 17 SSPGD's, 5SSPD later (2 coys. So the Panzer IV G, H or J. vs. the StuG III F, G or H. They're both medium tanks (9+), both sporting a heavy AT cannon and an MMG, both can get the Schürzen for extra protection against … He doesnt fit its role: In February 1943, at the suggestion of the Ministry of Armament, the Krupp company began trials of a new vehicle with the superstructure of the updated StuG III and the new suspension of the Pz.Kpfw. Then the whole thing goes pear shaped. October 1941 near Kalinin. The crew consisted of 4 people. It was based upon the StuG … From December of 1943 to March of 1945, 1139 such "hybrids" were produced by Krupp-Gruson at Magdeburg (chassis number 89324 to 89382 and 100001 to unknown). 11 posts • Page 1 of 1. mav Member Posts: 14 Joined: 22 Jul 2006, 13:05 ... 4. Using a powerful modified 75mm assault gun, it is known as a very effective tank killer. The Bovington Tank Museum in Dorset has one painted in Finnish markings. In 1942 the StuK40 L43 or 48 became available. The StuG was also used in Finland post-war where one unit even mixed StuGs and British turreted 'Charioteer' tank destroyers. Up-armored StuG III Ausf.G from an unidentified unit at the third battle of Kharkov, February 1943. 167), was a German assault gun variant of the Panzer IV used in the latter part of the Second World War. Discussions on all aspects of the USSR, from the Russian Civil War till the end of the Great Patriotic War and the war against Japan. From December of 1943 to March of 1945, 1139 such "hybrids" were produced by Krupp-Gruson at Magdeburg (chassis number 89324 to 89382 and 100001 to unknown). When it first appeared the Sturmgeschütz, or as it is more commonly known the StuG III, was a unique weapon – a powerful artillery gun mounted on a fully armoured, tracked, low slung chassis based on the Panzer III medium tank, and designed to provide close support for the German infantry. 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